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Meissen Mark :: Crossed Swords
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Dresden also used this mark and there are numerous marks that look similar, including modern day marks. It takes more than looking at the mark to identify Meissen or other high quality antique porcelains.

Reference books: Meissen Porcelain by Otto Walcha 1981; The Book of Meissen by Robert E. Rontgen 1984 - there are several others but these two should get you started.
Meissen Marks and Approximate Dates of Use:

Early in the history of Meissen they were very careful when they marked their wares, the swords were placed at a wide angle to each other and were carefully drawn. As time went on, the marks were put on more freely and exact care was not taken with the placement of the marks. So ... the best way to know if what you have is a Meissen is to go to an expert if you are in doubt. If you know for sure that it isn't a Meissen it may be one of the companies listed below.

Get a magnifying glass and look at your mark closely.... is it crossed arrows or crossed swords? There is a difference.

Meissen used several marks and there were several "reproduction" Meissen marks: When I say "reproduction marks" I mean reproduction from the 18th Century, maybe copy would be a better word.

The canceled swords
A canceled line often appears on a piece of Meissen either through or beside the crossed sword mark. This means the piece is supposed to be of inferior quality in either the painting or modeling. Some people say that Meissen used the canceled mark to increase turnover through price reduction. Others refer to the marks as a means of denoting a piece that has been given or sold to an outside decorator where it could be later painted (referred to as Outside Decorated). It can be very confusing for the collector. A piece given or sold to an outside decorator would be completely white in appearance.

German Dresden mark, which is sometimes referred to as a Meissen mark. This mark is now more correctly attributed to Helena Wolfsohn, a Dresden artist in the late 1880s! Mark: Crossed swords.

There are several companies that used the crossed swords mark, I have listed those that I could find here but I don't have photographs of the marks. So I recommend that you visit the library and look through several books on marks to find the one on your antique or collectible piece. I have given you a starting point with the pottery factory name. These are all European factories.

Crossed Swords Marks, Crossed Arrows, Flambeaux Mark:

* The mark most often mistaken for Meissen is from the rue Fontaine-au-Roy factory (aka Basse Courtille and La Courtille). It is in blue like the Meissen mark but is actually arrows instead of swords.
* Limbach and Volkstedt - Germany (sometimes had a star between the hilts similar to the Marcolini mark)
* Weesp - Holland (had 3 dots near the blades)
* La Courtille - Paris
* Worcester - England (had a 6 looking character between the blades)
* Kloster-Veilsdorf
* Bourdois & Bloch
* Kalk Porcelain

Crossed "L's" Marks:

* Vincennes factory used this mark and when it was taken over by Sevres they added very distinct date letters.

**From a very old publication that I have only this page from, no name and not dated.

 

 

Visitor Comments
  1. Comment #1 (Posted by Bruce M.Turano )
    Hi,I came across a Meissen Tureen that had a Meissen mark with a line thru it not of any color but a line into the porcelain itself across the the swords -A indentation in the porcelain across the swords.What does this mean? Thank you very much for your time and help.Kindest Regards,Bruce
  2. Comment #2 (Posted by Anna )
    I have a piece of pottery that has a hallmark, not sure if crossed swords or arrows. Has a circle in bottom under the actual crossing. If you can help I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you kindly, Anna
  3. Comment #3 (Posted by Lynnda Richards )
    I have a coffee set that has the Meissen mark, I think. The mark is like the one in your orange box. Is this Meissen? The mark has has two indentations over the mark like an equal sign = not colored. They also have red or blue numbering and the number 207 on all pieces. Plus, some with a couple of other marks. Do you know of a good, inexpensive appraiser I can use? I really would like to know if these are Meissen or what. Thank you,' Lynnda
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